Kristin Cavallari branded her ex-husband Jay Cutler a ‘pathological liar’ and said he brought ‘zero consistency’ to their relationship when they were together – while speaking on the Dumb Blonde podcast.
The former reality star, 37, shares three children with Jay – sons Camden, 12, and Jaxon, 10, and daughter Saylor, nine – and co-parent with him since they split in April 2020 after seven years of marriage (with their divorce finalized in June 2022).Â
During her appearance on the podcast, Kristin called their co-parenting relationship ‘so up and down’ and their relationship post-divorce a ‘bumpy road.’
Kristin even addressed the rumored affair he had with her ex-friend Kelly Henderson while they were still married, revealing that it may have happened.Â
The star also called their romance ‘toxic,’ something which she has previously said in 2022.Â
She said that while Jay never apologized to her about certain things that happened during their marriage, she can still forgive him and have empathy toward the former football star.Â
Kristin Cavallari branded her ex-husband Jay Cutler a ‘pathological liar’ and said he brought ‘zero consistency’ to their relationship when they were together – while speaking on the Dumb Blonde podcast

The former reality star, 37, shares three children with Jay – sons Camden, 12, and Jaxon, 10, and daughter Saylor, nine – and co-parent with him since they split in April 2020 after seven years of marriage (with their divorce finalized in June 2022); seen December 5, 2019
Kristin spoke about the alleged affair between Jay and Kelly – who was also her Very Cavallari co-star – while he was still married to Kristin.
‘I really don’t think anything happened,’ she said on the podcast.
However, she appeared to backtrack and question if anything did happen between them.
‘I really don’t think anything happened. F**k I don’t know how to be honest with you. Do I know for sure? No.’
Adding that he ‘used to trash her’ – meaning talk badly about her, which she says could mean that something was going on between the two.Â
‘Jay used to trash her which I sort of think if a guy is trashing a girl, there is probably something going on,’ Kristin explained.
Kristin said that her issue with Kelly was how she ‘added fuel to the fire’ and seemed to play into the rumors on her social media to her advantage.
‘I said something to her and it blew up in my face,’ Kristin recalled.Â

Kristin opened up about her former marriage during her appearance on the Dumb Blonde podcast, which dropped Monday morning
‘I will always stand by the fact that if a friend came to me and said “hey listen here’s how your actions made me feel.” I would go “Holy s**t that was not my intention and I’m so sorry let’s talk about this,’ she said, adding that this is also for romantic relationships not just friendships.
‘When people can’t take any accountability and turn it around and throw it in your face – I can’t do that,’ Kristin said.
‘I’ve had a lot of experience from that and it’s a huge thing for me. Moving forward with all of my friendships and relationships is accountability,’ adding that accountability is so ‘f*****g huge and its really hard for a lot of people.’Â
‘I’m at a point in my life where I can’t do anything with that right? This is how I feel and if you can’t acknowledge that, well then I can’t move on. So that’s basically what happened’ [between her and Kelly].
She even recalled seeing her at the airport, however she said she bolted before she could speak to her.
Kristin said she wanted to just give her former friend a hug.
The mother of three said that divorce was something she never wanted, due to coming from parents who were divorced.
Kristin said it was ‘the last thing I ever wanted,’ when speaking of divorce.

During her appearance on the podcast, Kristin called their co-parenting relationship ‘ ‘so up and down’ and their relationship post-divorce a ‘bumpy road’Â

Kristin pictured with her three kids Camden, Jaxon and Saylor
‘That still will creep up once in a while… it just sucks that we’re not together as a family.’Â
While she doesn’t ‘regret a damn thing’ she did call their relationship ‘toxic.’Â
‘When you’re dealing with a pathological liar, it’s hard to know what the f*****g truth is,’ the businesswoman said.Â
Adding: ‘People who are lying to you or are cheating, that’s because they’re hurt. That’s about them. That has nothing to do with me,’ she noted.Â
She did acknowledge that there were good things from their marriage, she did reveal that she he was like her ‘narcissistic’ father and she repeated the pattern from her childhood.Â
The former couple sat together at their son’s basketball game this year, which was something she still can’t believe happened.Â
‘We sat together at a basketball game earlier in the year, and I was like, “Holy f**k this is the best thing that’s ever happened. Jesus Christ we made it,’ she said.
‘We can sit next to each other. And we haven’t sat together since, so I don’t f*****g know. What the f**k.’Â