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What caught everyone’s attention was the conversation between the Republican and Democratic leaders, who had shared a tense relationship for over a decade.
Obama and Trump spoke during Jimmy Carter’s state funeral in Washington | AP Image
US President-elect Donald Trump and former President Barack Obama engaged in a seemingly unexpected and warm conversation during the state funeral of former President Jimmy Carter in Washington on January 9.
Their conversation and bonding carried more serious undertones beyond mere laughter, as a professional lip reader claimed that Trump, possibly mindful of the cameras focused on the pair, suggested to Obama that they should “find a quiet place” later in the day to discuss a “matter of importance.”
It remains unclear what the duo discussed at length, but forensic lip reader Jeremy Freeman’s analysis suggested that Obama and Trump might have been talking about international agreements, according to the New York Post.
“I can’t talk, we have to find a quiet place sometime. This is a matter of importance and we need to do this outside so that we can deal with it, certainly, today,” the translated version of the chat was shared with the Post.
At one point during the conversation, Trump leaned toward Obama and said, “I’ve pulled out of that. It’s the conditions. Can you imagine that?” During his first term, Trump withdrew from Obama’s 2015 Iran nuclear deal and the 2016 Paris Climate Agreement, although it is unclear if those agreements were the subject of their discussion.
Obama burst into laughter as Trump remarked, “And after, I will,” just before the pooled TV camera feed shifted away from the two men, who were seated between former First Lady Laura Bush and Trump’s wife, Melania.
“Call me at the foy after, yep,” Trump replied to Obama during their exchange, possibly referring to the National Cathedral’s foyer. Obama then said, “Can you just … it should be good.”
NEW: Trump told Obama he had to find a quiet place to speak with him regarding an urgent “matter of importance,” according to the New York Post.The revelation was made by forensic lip reader Jeremy Freeman.
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What caught everyone’s attention was the conversation between the Republican and Democratic leaders, who had shared a tense relationship for over a decade.
Freeman, who is based in London, was born deaf and for 16 years has served as a University College London-certified expert witness for litigants, the police and journalists.
